| <Walter> | While we're waiting I got a question for Rollin. |
| <rollin> | Go for it. |
| <Walter> | This afternoon JunkSpy quit accepting mail or whatever it does again. I thought it was my ISP, but I checked with my wife she could still get mail. When I took JunkSpy "out of the loop" then I started getting mail. |
| <rollin> | What exactly happens? Does Junk Spy report an error or your email program? |
| <Walter> | This seems to be the LAN problem I've been experiencing for awhile. Have you made progress tracking it down? |
| <rollin> | I'm not sure what LAN problem you're refering to. Refresh my memory. |
| <Walter> | PMMAil tries to connect and after awhile jus times out. |
| <Walter> | I believe I mentioned it at the last Speakup when you came. Is there some long I could have generated to help track this thing. |
| <rollin> | There is an advanced debug log we can turn on, but let's do a little trouble shooting first. |
| <rollin> | Looking back through the old email I have, have you added an entry to your \mptn\etc\hosts file for your new LAN IP address? |
| <Walter> | Rollin, I've got a large number of IP's in the HOSTS file. |
| <rollin> | Including your computer? Do you still get the error message when Junk Spy starts or is that resovled? |
| <Walter> | No, that problem is resolved. Junkspy doesn't give me any error messages. |
| <rollin> | Ok, I will email you a set of steps to do the next time the problem occurs. How often does it occur? What does it take to fix it a reboot? |
| <Randell> | Walter, as a side note, let me remind you and others that you don't need to wait for a chat like this one to resolve those kind of issues... |
| <Randell> | Just send them along anytime to junkspy@sundialsystems.com |
| <Randell> | Well... since we have sort of gotten started with that... shall we get started? |
| <Walter> | It varies a lot. Sometimes it can go for months and be fine; other times it can fail several times in a month. The real problem is when it goes down, there is no know way to get it going again! A simple reboot doesn't do it. Restarting both JunkSpy and PMMail doesn't either. I *think* reinstalling JUNKSPY may do it but its been awhile since I tried it. |
| <rollin> | Ok, I'm emailing you now with several suggestions. |
| <Walter> | So let's officially start the meeting. |
| <Randell> | Great! I apologize for the fact that we don't have a specific topic for tonight... |
| <Walter> | This evening we are privileged to have Rollin and Randell from Sundial Systems on hand for our meeting. |
| <Walter> | I'll now turn the meeting over them. |
| <Randell> | Thanks Walter! |
| <Randell> | We tried hard to come up with something specific for tonight but nothing really seemed to fit will... |
| <Randell> | So we're basically going to open it up for "random access" questions and answers on anything Sundial related... |
| <madodel0> | So nothing new in the Sundial stable in the immediate future? |
| <Randell> | A bit later we're going to test out something we may use more in future chats... but we'll get to that later. |
| <Randell> | madodel0, well... not much "new" that we haven't already talked about some... |
| <Randell> | We are continuing toward the release of ClikClok that we talked about in the last chat... |
| <Mok> | Define "ClikClok", please. |
| <Randell> | but it's not close enough to release to concentrate on tonight. |
| <Sector> | !ask clikclok |
| <VoiceBot> | [clikclok] For a preview of Sundial's latest project see http://www.sundialsystems.com/clikclok/clikclokpreview.html (madodel) |
| <Randell> | Mok, it's a "graphical clock of the world" type of program... and, yes, see the preview from last time (and the log of the last chat) for details. |
| <Randell> | We're also still working on the next major version of Relish... |
| <Randell> | We had a preview of that on a VOICE chat many months ago... |
| <crimso> | Relish? Great! |
| <Randell> | but it's also not yet to the point that we are ready to talk about the release in any detail. |
| <Randell> | We're also working on relatively minor update for JunkSpy and Mesa in the short term... |
| <Walter> | I plan my life around Relish. |
| <Randell> | those are essentially maintainence releases. |
| <Mok> | ...but you can't talk about those either? |
| <Walter> | Please tell me you'll fix that bug that's bugging me in JunkSpy. :-) |
| <Randell> | Mok... since they are mostly minor, internal changes, there's not much to talk about in any detail. |
| <Randell> | Longer term we'll also still working on possible future versions of Clearlook, DBExpert, and the Rover Pack... but we have not mapped out the detailed plans for any of those at this time. |
| <Randell> | The Relish release is the most significant one we are working on at the moment... |
| <Randell> | It's a relatively large, feature rich, enhancement. |
| <madodel0> | Any you can mention now? |
| <Randell> | The most interesting "big thing" in my mind is that it will support the Relish Net group calendaring features... |
| <Randell> | both "out of the box" (so to speak) and via TCP/IP connections... |
| <Randell> | So you could, for instance have a Relish Net server for a geographically distributed group of people. |
| <Randell> | And all they would need to connect to it would be normal internet connectivity. |
| <Mok> | Kinda like a VPN sorta thingy? |
| <Randell> | You still get all the benefits of "automatic" sync between your machine and the server... |
| <Randell> | And you have full access to your own info even when you aren't connected to the net. |
| <Randell> | Mok, kinda, but it doesn't need any VPN software since it uses our private protocol between the workstation and server software. |
| <Randell> | Theres also a new "sliding week" view that allows you to see "the next 7 days" rather than just a specific week. |
| <Randell> | And that view allows you some flexibility to do things like "the last n days plus the next m days". |
| <Walter> | That sounds like a very useful feature. |
| <Randell> | We've also make the idea of a "week" more flexible some of our worldwide customers in countries where the week starts on Monday rather than Sunday for instance. |
| <madodel0> | I remember someone asking about that at a Speakup with sundial a long time ago |
| <Randell> | And our Lookup views (that let you search for values) gain the ability to handle "or" conditions across fields and allow you to search the attached memos as well. |
| <Randell> | madodel0, yes, we take the comments we get from these Speakups (and other sources) seriously and try to factor them all into our product plans... |
| <Randell> | though we know we will never be able to address everyone's every desire. |
| <Sector> | That's ok, you do more then most |
| <Randell> | There's a bunch more stuff being added to Relish... but that will be the topic for some future Speakup when we are close to release. |
| <Randell> | So, back to questions... any specific questions, comments, requests (Sundial-related) out there? |
| <Sector> | Any plans to offer more then POP3 connectivity to JunkSpy (aol for example)
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